3 years ago. Noveske is an example. That's probably why the have been the gold standard of just about every top trainer in the US for the last decade plus. I feel like my BCM will just work no matter what, weather that is warranted doesn't matter I guess, it still makes me feel good. Starting with a good blank and then very even application of chrome with the right thickness. That honor likely goes to Ctriertion who also lap their chrome lined barrels. They don't use the same CMV and they are probally the best at the application of chrome. I had a bad bolt in one of my DDs, never had an problems whatsoever in any BCM I've owned or any of my friends rifles. This item is no longer available. TRMETAVESSEL:MELVILLE TRMETAINSTITUTION:SIO TRMETAPLATFORM:SHIP TRMETASONAR:Seabeam_2000#TRMETASONARVERSION:SeaBeam_2000_3.18 TRMETACRUISEID:MGLN03MV TRMETACRUISENAME:Magellan_leg_03 TRMETAPI:Steven_Jayne_ TRMETAPIINSTITUTION:WHOI TRMETACLIENT:UNKNOWN TRMETAROLLBIAS:-0.370000 … By Justin Stasiowski In the “dry” heat of central Arizona sits POF-USA, a small batch AR company that represents perhaps the pinnacle of design for the trendy piston AR crowd. Same category as companies like Aero, Stag, RRA, and even the premium PSA stuff. ш @ HuNgArY-2000 +/ . I have a love/hate thing with the MRP. !# @ rЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂѓ? This is a base level 16″ carbine, with the archetypal plastic M4 style handguards, A2 grip, and classic telescoping stock for the AR purist who doesn’t want to be all tacti-cool. I have zero interest in Spikes or BCM rifles, ... Looks to be a lot of thought put into their rifles vs others playing catch up by slapping something together to get on a trend. I had a terrible experience with KAC, damn gun wouldn’t run for anything..that said the customer service was good and they eventually just gave up and replaced the gun. The DD was easily more accurate which was nice when I used it hunting, but I don't hunt with AR's anymore so that advantage is lost on me. Quick view Compare. Daniel Defense: their barrels produce solid groups and the newer ones aren’t stupidly over-gassed but their furniture is ugly and the whole upper/gun is over priced. Wonder why we don't hear all the horror stories we do with other brands. Find a used SR15 Mod 0, 1 or 2. Never had a POF, but I've had a few BCMs and a couple DDs. I have dd rails on all of them. With access to hundreds of manufacturers and 30+ distributors, we have the ability to fulfill any request, from grenade launchers and live-fire shoot houses to CPR manikins and IFAKs. The two stripped POF-USA P308 lower receivers seen here will only work with POF upper receivers and must be shipped to a Federal Firearms Licensed (FFL) dealer. I'd spend my money on a LMT every time. POF is hit or miss and HK is overpriced so neither of those are worth looking in to. They will only warrant their DMR rifle to 2 MOA. See details here.) KAC or LMT, maybe even an Armalite.....................all else are just play toys by comparison. BCM might tickle most people's fancy but when you get down to the things that matter, they don't compare very well. Get a PWS MK116 Mod 2 or LWRC IC Enhanced and call it the day, your money will be better spent. Idiots and ignorants writing requirements,. Almost annoyingly so, but I’d much rather have it too tight & let it loosen up over time, than have it be too loose at all. Myself, I shoot a BCM Mod 0 rifle w/an Aimpoint PRO and have almost 4K rounds through it with not a single FTF, FTE or any other malfunction. In fact, they are probably a step down due to lack of gas system and barrel profile choices. Price point is roughly $2,000. save. Def not Pac Nor since they burned up last year. Anyone have experience with both? At the 2000 price point I would save a few hundred more and buy a Knights Armament. Especially the NEW freedom line (in the last 8 months) when they switched to 4150 CMV barrels and all nitride/melonite as they ditched most of their phosphate stuff. View Profile View Forum Posts View Articles … Piston ARs are a solution looking for a problem with the exception of a special envelope, which is why the 416 was created. Son's of Liberty, BCM, POF, Knights, Hodge, and spikes all make rifles for the retail consumer that either match or in some cases may even exceed the quality proposition of a DD rifle. You are just showing your ignorance at this point. @" ЇЂ‡= @ЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂ‡= ЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂ‡= @ЂЂЂЂЂЂ For a duty rifle I don't think that you would go wrong with a DD or BCM. Colt, LMT,KAC, HK, &, FN have gone through exhaustive testing as a whole system to ensure they run in all weather conditions, dry, wet, with shit ammo, with full power ammo, with a suppressor, without one, ect and still keep ticking. Other option would be ordering a complete upper from BCM, most likely a 14.5 or 16 mid length. Oh, I forgot to say. 2 MOA from an … Trigger – The portion that your finger squeezes during the firing cycle; Hammer – The portion under the most spring tension; it’s held in place by the sear until the trigger moves out of the way. A few observations on BCM. ###CBF: VERSION 1.6 # CBF file written by CBFlib v0.9.0 data_image_0 _Misc.acq_autoexpo_mode OFF _Misc.acq_expo_time 10 _Misc.acq_latency_time 0 _Misc.acq_mode Single _Misc.acq_nb_frames 20 _Misc.acq_trigger_mode IntTrig _Misc.image_bin 1x1> _Misc.image_flip ' ' _Misc.image_roi 0,0>-1475x1679> _Misc.image_rotation Rotation_0 _array_data.data ; --CIF-BINARY-FORMAT-SECTION-- … Fit and finish is perfect (a little deeper black on dd ). Sniper’s Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. I'm personally a BCM fan because of the price point relative to the quality. You are using an out of date browser. SIMPLE = T BITPIX = 16 /8 unsigned int, 16 & 32 int, -32 & -64 real NAXIS = 2 /number of axes NAXIS1 = 1336 /fastest changing axis NAXIS2 = 1336 /next to fastest changing axis BSC The company makes exceptionally accurate, expensive, and outfight heavy battle rifles […] 3 ! The POF tends to be heavier, but is very accurate. So, if I have to carry it all day like when I was an 11B I would go BCM because I already had a shit ton to carry. thank you to everyone who participated in our March poll of Reader’s Choice: BEST AR-15! The Renegade comes with a tuned trigger out of the box; LWRC has a standard-ish trigger that most people would want to replace anyway. BCM® rifles come stock with a rifle length gas system, as designed and fielded by the US Military in the original AR10 and M16A1-5 rifles. I don't prefer the laser logos on the civilian DD's but it's just cosmetic and could always be rattle canned over. I tend to grab the lighter rifle and it's a BCM 11.5". $1,511.99. Number one: it is similar to those used by the United States military. I love it when newbs come here and try to educate us. POF: see above. We can do that. They partner a lot less with LMT than they used to. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. That sounds plausible, to be honest. I don't hear about SCAR 16s shooting as well but again I could be wrong and don't know everything. And the surface finish will not be as good either & that's why Criterion laps their barrels after plating. This is a way for POF to snare the budget conscious with its wares, before upselling the hell out of them. I get what your saying but dude....you are off base on most of it. POF P415 Edge 5.56 NATO – 44.7% WINNER; Colt LE6920 M4 Carbine 5.56 NATO – 7.9%; BCM RECCE-14 KMR-A Carbine 5.56 NATO – 7.6% Google POF customer service. You are using an out of date browser. Need a ambidextrous lower receiver, such as the Radian Weapons AX556 or POF-USA Gen 4, along with the BCM MK2 thermofit upper receiver and sub–½ MOA cryogenically treated barrel? Just for shits and giggle, I pulled out my 14.5 BCM and 14.5 Geissele and BCM weighs less. Yes, it takes a great surface finish before plating to get a good result after plating, however w/o lapping the as plated barrel will never, ever be as dimensionally consistent as it was before plating.............that's just the nature of the beast & the process. It may not display this or other websites correctly. BCM Gunfighter Short Vertical Grip LWRC Ambi Charging Handle Geissele SSA-E Magpul QD steel end plate Magpul PRO Sights ... pof p415 upper for sale, pof p415 vs sig mcx forum discussion, sig mcx vs pof p415. Happy with them. Founded by Frank Galli in 2014, Sniper’s Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to it’s users in one location. Personally I do not like the stocks on the POF(or a fan of m-loc) and my preferred shooting stance I have no use/need for a full length rail system. Extended Module: Heresy Rave Mix FastTracker v2.00 > ) r %&'( $" ! I have bought my Sr15;s either used or years ago. Thread Tools: It's super accurate and the quality is awesome! DD makes a great rifle, just look for deals on new or slightly used and they can be had for $1400. I'm not familiar with their accuracy being great-but SCAR 17s are shooters so that is a good point actually. BCM RECCE-14 KMR-A Carbine 5.56 NATO [MSRP $1,500] FN FN-15 SRP Tactical 5.56 NATO [MSRP $1,199] – 16″ Chrome-Lined Button-Broached Barrel, … MIL STD means something very specific, which causes things to gravitate towards an acceptable level of mediocrity. LMT brings nothing that Colt, BCM or FN does to the table. Why not get a nice compact rifle like a Tavor SAR/X95? Like I said, I love mine, but there are a few downfalls. I picked up a DDM4V7 Pro last year, reliable and accurate, regardless of what ammo i used. Well that's the game after all. View Quote. ANY company could do what BCM is doing, it all a matter of who you call to source the parts. }1!w"4 1!g+ яяяюАж 0! The POF I'm looking at is the Renegade+ Gen4 which is a DI system. JavaScript is disabled. At least the rifle will retain its value. Both are great and reliable. POF has taken the simple Eugene Stoner concept to the extreme and employed its legendary extraction tech to create a better AR. Sorry I was talking about their SS barrels. My personal opinion is that one would be well served by a DD, FN or BCM. I have an FN CHF barrel and it's "combat" accurate at best. So I shoot the sbr’s and the dds sit. I've gotta see one of those. Not picking on you, but that’s the same thing PSA fanboys say. I think the most I paid for the last one was like $1800. I have been trying to get behind the Geissele (14.5" URGI) a bit more and like it a lot, much heavier and beefier front rail than both the POF and BCM. At least now we are in the realm of speaking about apples to apples. Has anyone audited any of these manufacturers? I own a couple of these too. я _data_яяяя 6 ї »Ю? My nod is to dd, but their sbr’s are to expensive for me. смешно читать все эти "найти охрану и взять за я.ца!" I love my DD m4v9. I have 3 KAC's & love'em but I don't think they plate their own barrels, but I'm not positive on that. Fully Ambidextrous and ready for anyting, the POF-USA Renegade + Rifle embodies everything a DI rifle shoulde be! FN barrels are top notch and durable. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You can’t go wrong with either one. Narodnyie_russkiie_skazki_A._N.PQPQBOOKMOBI M ' Hp QC VX [x `d e# j o) t# x }a 1 B"$&5(*, . FN knows their way around a barrel and how to consistently mass produce them no doubt. Extended Module: Devoid of hope FastTracker v2.00 7 ,0 „ ( * + ! While well known for their big bore boomsticks, Barrett has had a good deal of success with their REC7 line of piston driven AR-15s over the last few years. You will be happy with either one. MIL STD means jack shit... of course it does for fucking nobody hobbiest never wore a fucking uniform except to sell cookies door to door pukes like you...But the company you jizz guzzle sure like to throw the milspec 1195E barrel bullshit around a lot. Founded by Frank Galli in 2014, Sniper’s Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to it’s users in one location. View Profile View Forum Posts View Articles Member Join Date Oct 2011 Posts 82 Feedback Score 0. Having three DD rifles, I wouldn't hesitate to pick up another if I had a need to. Triggers are Mil-Spec. Very consistent application and it shows in the accuracy of their barrels. As I live in Wisconsin, I shoot some AR competitions with some of the guys that work at BCM (they're located in Harland, WI, west of Milwaukee). (This is a reader-submitted review as part of our gun review contest. My vote goes to BCM. Otherwise the gas system is superior in every way. Curious to other's opinion of BCM vs. Aero completed uppers. Thanks for the input guys. The 1-7" twist 16" barrel is Mil-Spec 11595E and has a manganese phosphate finish. Like many or most of the units in this roundup, POF uses A2 tool steel for the trigger/sear, disco, and hammer, all of which are nitrided. Yea well at least you didn't have to spend years at APG/Edgewood (unless you were stationed there). Best AR-15 For the Money - BCM RECCE-16 Carbine. I liked them both and would buy another BCM and pass on another DD. The barrels are high quality. 8BPS ђ ђ Ђ8BIM н H H 8BIM 8BIM 8BIM " $II* ( 1 Ёi‡ V |’ є†’ JЪ яя ђ ђ H H PaintTool SAI 1.0•П§.PTУ“ЉАxж¬L I have several BCM uppers on AP lowers and like them. 8BPS Е X 8BIM н X X 8BIM x8BIM у 8BIM 8BIM' 8BIM @ @8BIM 8BIM h KpдcА L яШяа JFIF HHяо AdobedЂ яЫ„ яА pK " яЭ яД ? Also, I have a few Geissele uppers on AP lowers and like those too. I give precisely zero fucks about the quick change barrels and the lack of barrel options is frustrating. I have owned my BCM for 5 years and have probably 5k rounds through it without issue. I believe their good barrels were pac nors. If you're paying $1800 for a DD rifle then you're off your rocker. The only downfall is it's not very modular with the direct impingement. !ЂЂЂЂЂЂ Also, I have a few Geissele uppers on AP lowers and like those too. "#$%& @ ›= ›E ‡ЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂЂ= I guarantee you 95% of firearms will never find out what actually works or doesn't...anymore its all about looking tactical metro with beards, sunglasses and "tactical" plead shirts with $2400 custom Glock 43 carry guns... With about $20k in HK sitting in my gun room, expert no...probally have a good idea what works and doesn't. Shoots lights out with the 73gr Black Hills and also 77gr Hornady. The straight gas tube is hot. 0 яяяюБ1ј0 = 1! 86% Upvoted. As far as I know, the FN Tactical II, RR LAR-15, and POF Minuteman are not guaranteed to be 1 MOA. POF vs ? Yes, they are duable, no they are not any more accurate than other comparable barrels. share. FN probally makes the most accurate barrels of those listed, they have some special Juju when it comes to chroming. I do recommend investing in a top tier firearm if you think it could ever be used in self defense.
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